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National Libray of Scotland..

It seems that the NLS may have changed the licensing model used on some of the scans and items in it's digital gallery. (see also s:Wikisource_talk:WikiProject_NLS#File:Archaeologia_Britannica.pdf)

If it has then there a few works already hosted on IA (https://archive.org/details/nationallibraryofscotland), that the import script(s) you have IA mirroring could import to Commons (once the IA metadata gets updated.) 1500-2000 books on Gaelic language and related topics is not insubstantial!

Also pinging, @LilacRoses: as the NLS contact point on English Wikisource. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:42, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

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File:The gazetteer of Scotland. (With plates and maps.) (IA gazetteerofscov11838cham).pdf

Volume 1 of 2. Would it be feasible to generate a list of NLS items, So that they can be matched up with the Digital Gallery items on the NLS catalouge?

BTW This seems to be Volume 1, https://digital.nls.uk/gazetteers-of-scotland-1803-1901/archive/97491771 has a link to Volume 2, which should perhaps be uploaded as a companion?. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:59, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

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IA Harmonization... PDF vs Djvu..

Is there a way of identifying based on IA identifier presence , if we have an IA work but as djvu (rather than PDF) on Commons? (And hopefully identify duplicates between the PDF and DJVU versions.) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:37, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

BTW I note some PDF' files with inaccurate PD-US-Gov licenses.. Do you have a way of generating a list of all "mirrored" PDF's with this license, so they can be categorised for review? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:37, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
  1. Yes, matching PDF and DjVu files can be matched up, but I'm withholding my volunteer effort because of Commons:Undeletion requests/Archive/2020-12#File:The siyar-ul-Mutakherin, a history of the Mahomedan power in India during the last century (IA siyarulmutakheri00ghulrich).pdf. Despite establishing a consensus to keep both PDF and DjVu versions, there are clearly sufficient administrators around, that will delete even demonstrably better quality PDF documents over inferior DjVu versions, to make a point that I fail to understand given that there is no risk at all that a DjVu file in use on WikiSource would ever be deleted. I may raise a proposal to establish an enforceable consensus to keep PDF and DjVu files, with no preference for either, but it needs to be clear enough so that no administrator will go on a random deletion binge against the aims of the IA books project. I did not create this project so that the outcomes should be deleted out of policy.
  2. No need, incategory:Scans_from_the_Internet_Archive hastemplate:LicenseReview.

--Fæ (talk) 10:58, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

An example file in respect of issue 2 File:Park's floral magazine (IA CAT30999385067).pdf Got tagged as PD-US-GOV in error based on the source archive.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 13:19, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
May think about it later. It's a possible long term housekeeping issue as it may take a bit of smart metadata assessment to automate. --Fæ (talk) 13:23, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
Also - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=incategory%3APD_US_Government+incategory%3ABooks_uploaded_by_F%C3%A6+insource%3AHenry+G.+Gilbert+Nursery+and+Seed+Trade+Catalog+Collection&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&ns0=1&ns6=1 That should be fairly easy to resolve, the pre 1925 as expired, and most of the 1925-1978 stuff is either no notice or not renewed as I've found. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 13:33, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

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Courtesy notification.. I haven't listed the 100 or so pending DR's as they are still to be decided. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:39, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

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Harmonizing : multiple volume series, but disprate or single volumes uploaded only

Example:- File:Georgia's landmarks, memorials and legends (IA georgiaslandmark01knig).pdf I am finding these manually by reviewing Faebot's contribs (which is also how I am finding a small number of potential copyright concerns), but wondered if you could look into a semi automated way to try and also harmonize 'volume sets' identifying gaps that might need the other volumes to be found on IA or other archives. Thanks. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:41, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Can you come up with a template like {{Multiple volumes}} to mark these? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:57, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Sometime having duplicates between formats and editions is useful...

Index talk:The Book of Orders of Knighthood and Decorations of Honour of All Nations.djvu , I found a page missing in the Djvu copy in the PDF version. I appreciate this is a specific case though.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:15, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

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Harmonization: Pushing Categories upward...

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Annual_descriptive_catalogue_of_seeds_-_the_largest_collection_in_the_world_for_the_flower_garden_for_the_lawn_for_the_vegetable_garden_for_the_farm_and_nursery_(1895)&action=history

Namely cat pushing. In this instance I copied a category on the PDF, to the category the PDF was in. In some instance this might not be appropriate and so I'd like your opinions, on this before I suggest automation of this. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:28, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

It's a normal process. In the absence of tagging (instead we have the very confused approach of structured data) there's no firm policy to use categories like tags, instead clustering into hierarchies is our presumption of discovery by 'navigation' rather than 'filtering'. --Fæ (talk) 10:39, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

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Checking uploads...

I'm sorry if I seem to be generating a lot of batch DR's.. Is there a way to tell VFC to notify you in the collapsed from?

I would also like some help with this, as I don't feel happy being the sole patroler of these, given that has been demonstrated in some of the DR's there some more complex cases that have arisen. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:35, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

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File:Early history of the University of Pennsylvania from its origin to the year 1827 (IA ganzaoquhehuangt00bafe).pdf

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IA uploads

Hi Fæ! I tried to upload something from IA and it was already here, since then I have been enjoying them very much!

The names are mostly unsuitable for use at wikisource with the exception of a few which are completely and utterably unsuitable (like File:Instructions concerning erecting of a library, presented to My Lord the President De Mesme (IA instructionsconc00naudrich).pdf.

I think that due to the information template, a rename with the deletion of the redirect would not upset your uploads (as well as the same thing that prevented me from uploading the same djvu version into a different namespace). But if I am wrong, a rename with a redirect would keep you happy and be much nicer for wikisource.

I am being told no to renames for reasons that make no sense to me.

These are the files:

As uploader, you can request a rename without further reason. As the person who manages the uploading you might be able to give a blankket blessing to this and future renaming.

If you could make a statement here User_talk:Fallaner#renaming_PDF you would be providing the real reasoning and perhaps a nod. --RaboKarbakian (talk) 17:11, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

UK Legislation...

Keep going :)

BTW I think in some instances what you've got is the "in force" versions as opposed to the "as made". Provided it's clear you could alwasy upload both ( OR as you were already doing the QP versions :) )

I had at one point way back considered asking some of the GLAM people, to ask the National Archives about a wider import of old legislation into Wikisource. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:42, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Did you plan to look into importing legislation from other Jurisdictions (subject to appropriate licensing conditions)? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:42, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
User:Fæ/Project_list/Irish_legislation is mostly working, but only run in test so far. That's the only one planned. --Fæ (talk) 20:54, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

File:Acquisition and reversal of a two manipulanda differentiation in sham, neocortically, and hippocampally lesioned rats (IA acquisitionrever00milarich).pdf

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Also, thanks. RaboKarbakian (talk) 04:05, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Faebot stopped?

I assume you are updating it? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:31, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Laptop restarted itself, probably from either overheating or some sort of memory problem from too many parallel processes; it seems to have issues if more than 4 active processes are running full time. The kit is at the likely life limit, things like memory chips may start corrupting, which is what happened with a very nice old Sony laptop I had a few years ago. I did lose a small amount of work.
Was hoping to be able to run these projects on a WMF cast off by now, considering it costs them nothing to write off old office laptops.
If you mean the IA books harmonization, this was kicked off again this afternoon, keep in mind that even a relative small PDF that fails to upload may need around 45 mins to be given up on. It's not a terribly efficient process, just a solution. --Fæ (talk) 20:30, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the update.. BTW Somewhere else I read a comment expressing concerns about how despite money the WMF has, certain things don't get the level of support you would expect from a global brand, I wonder how that's going to work for the strategy of marketing "Coporate" data API's unless funding is applied to provide the levels of support response Corporate clients will actively demand. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:37, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
The last entry I have for Faebot is "14:44, 5 December 2020", I hope my recent efforts in chasing down copyright issues hasn't got it blocked. :( ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:44, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
I've halted the run, after looking at memoirsofducdes01sainuoft. The rerun has exposed more 'bad filename' errors, which actually still result in putting all the extracted images in a category. I may look at that tomorrow at some point before restarting. --Fæ (talk) 21:06, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
Aside, So I don't have to scan contribs.. Would it be possible for Faebot (or a script run on your main account) to generate appropriate logs for the stuff it uploads/moves under the Harmonization (or the IA books) project? The log could be then archived on a daily basis, and those logs used to focus improvement and post upload processing efforts? Thanks for implementing the {{Licence review}} stuff BTW ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:50, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
This can be done as a Quarry SQL, as the upload comments are unique. Something similar is at Quarry:query/40516 that you may be able to fork. An on-wiki log is a drag to maintain. --Fæ (talk) 21:06, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
The tracking category Category:IA books harmonization will be added for new uploads. --Fæ (talk) 12:39, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Why having both formats is a a good idea...

In the PDF vs Djvu debate keeping both formats is good : Compare File:Cary's New Itinerary (1819).djvu vs File:Duke University Libraries (IA carysnewitinerar01cary).pdf

And in respect of s:Index talk:The Book of Orders of Knighthood and Decorations of Honour of All Nations.djvu The PDF was able to patch the Djvu which had a missing page :)

Now if there was a tool that was able to do server side scan regen (to either DJVU or PDF) , (assuming IA remiains active) then it would be a very powerful way of doing things. Currently IA upload blocks if something with the relevant IA identfier is found to already be on Commons. (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T269518)

I don't think there's an easy or efficient way of doing direct to Commons JP2-> PDF/DJVU/TEXT conversions without WMF level funding. (The thought here is page scans on GLAM sites, that do not necessarily use DJVU (like the NLS)). (Hmm... Commons already transcodes between video formats, why not between Djvu and PDF?., albiet not entirely without a quality loss.? Maybe worth a wishlist item on Phabricator ) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:35, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

The pdf vs. djvu problem is so much like jpg vs. jp2 -- only for images, pdf is so much worse! Once again, as an image restorer here, I am looking at the pdfs as bookmarks, so a way to pull the images out (that doesn't use Flickr) and get the highest quality untouched (except for rotation and cropping maybe, which is a nice touch), saved as png not tif would be just great! (If I might butt in on Shakes thing here....) --RaboKarbakian (talk) 16:11, 6 December 2020 (UTC)


diff This sourcerer has hurt feelings, for lack of a better description as I was not allowed to upload because th pdf was here already. My djvu is in use which is overly documented at wikidata....
I don't like this at wikidata either as someone might make a second transcription and wikidata doesn't allow that but it wouldn't be known until after the fact.
All three, the pixeler, the sourcerer, and the cruncher are kind of miffed about having to add blanks to the book template. Who are these uploads for? --RaboKarbakian (talk) 17:08, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Getting miffed seems a bit pointless. There's nothing wrong with Commons hosting a PDF version and the old format (which the IA has abandoned) of DjVu. I understand that WikiSource likes it, but this is a consequence of the WikiMedia code handling PDFs badly. What should be fixed is better handling of PDFs, not to effectively ban PDFs whenever someone might find a DjVu version (which again, more people can't read than can).
If you personally can't upload DjVus when a PDF exists on Commons, that's a bug, it needs to be fixed. Raise it, get it fixed, or get a recommended work around. --Fæ (talk) 12:35, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
PDF vs. DjVu is a bit more complicated than that. PDF is first and foremost a page layout format, and its design reflects that; while DjVu is primarily an archival and preservation format. PDF has positioning and formatting of text, but no real structure. DjVu on the other hand stores the text layer in a structured fashion down to the character box level (it's not hOCR, but roughly equivalent). DjVu is also designed to be possible to manipulate programatically in a completely different way than PDFs (and this is reflected in the available tooling for each; we've been unable to find tools to manipulate PDFs in the ways we need).
So for a user manual or other modern document PDF is the no-brainer choice; but for digital preservation of a historical book I would think long and hard before I used anything but DjVu. It's not that the issues you point out (lack of easy reader support for most people, and the bugs that can tip the scales when working at IA's scale) don't exist; but rather that for these specialist use cases the other properties become more important.
MediaWiki's extraction of PDF text layers is also deficient and should be fixed, but this is not the only issue involved and fixing it is not guaranteed to result in equivalent quality.
In any case, I very much agree with you that having both formats here is not a problem. They serve different purposes, one for the general reader and one for a specialist use case. If anything, I might wish for having the original .jp2 files here too, because both DjVu and PDF formats have lossy compression and reencoding loss so for anywhere it matters one always should go back to the source. And it matters a lot for both OCR and images extracted from old scanned books. --Xover (talk) 18:04, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
JP2 is a discussion we've had several times now, so for me it's parked indefinitely in any practical terms.
A solution to the badness of the PDF spec, would be for the MediaWiki software to define a specific required format that will be a suitable 'mining' format. Given a standard we can then have tools to covert popular PDF encodings to whatever that standard is, this could even be a UI embedded upload tool. Some PDF standards would remain unparsable, but we could prioritize how to investigate the failures and any uploading project could flag those as failures before choices about uploading.
Though this is pie in the sky thinking, a proposal would help define projects for tools or MW improvements.
As Shakespeare has mentioned several times, a tool to compile PDFs from scratch using the JP2 originals from IA is entirely feasible, so again "standard" best quality PDFs could be created for everything at IA, there just needs to be some detailed work on standards by those that are knowledgeable about it. --Fæ (talk) 18:51, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
So far as I know, the PDF format simply doesn't have the semantic tags needed, and certainly no tools to work with it (unless you want to reinvent low-level PDF handling libraries). If the goal is easy accessibility for the average reader I would suggest first looking into a way to display a category of page images as a book, ala the IA book reader, with epub export (probably using the ws-export tool). There's no particular need to detour through PDF for that purpose, and doing it this is way will be a lot less complicated and requires a lot less effort to implement. --Xover (talk) 19:07, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for all the housekeeping..

Thanks..

The housekeeping is also helping me examine stuff to add {{Creator}} tags :) . I hope you don't mind my attempts at catalouge improvement :) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:32, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

BTW as the IA Books project is now mature.. Could you consider adding a post to VP asking for help in doing the checking and catalouge improvements?

5 million books is not a small feat, and it needs more than just me checking for the tiny numbers of items that Commons regretablly can't yet host. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:18, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Multi-volumes works...

A long term catalog management and categories issue, but I created {{Morevols}} to try and mark single volumes of multi volumes works and "serial publications" I find, that may need pairing up and placing in grouped categories for the relevant multi-volume set, journal or periodical. I am not sure the task can be automated, but if others know of ways to look for appropriate volume indicators in meta-data (or even filenames) to add a tag like this for review, feel free to work on it at some future long term date. This isn't urgent. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:54, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Review

Can you check I licensed the File:190521-F-XN348-9173.jpg correctly? I could not be sure. Thanks. --ToprakM ✉ 01:17, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

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It would be a lot better to bundle these. In this case the search intitle:/IA proceeding/ insource:"International Ornithological Congress" is fairly easy to run even if you have to weed out the list by year. --Fæ (talk) 11:38, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

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File:Animals of the past - an account of some of the creatures of the ancient world (IA animpastacc04luca).pdf

Wrong license, but I don't see an obvious notice. Your opinion? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 18:16, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Swapped to PD-US-no notice, as it seems a good fit. --Fæ (talk) 19:20, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

File:Bulletin of the Museum of Comparative Zoology at Harvard College (IA bulletinofmuseum5253harv).pdf

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File:Hellenika historika anekdota, 1750-1862 (IA hellenikahistori00lapp).pdf

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File:The dinosaur book - the ruling reptiles and their relatives (IA dinosauruli13colb).pdf

Another possible no notice work? I think we need more than just me checking these are they are harmonized. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:29, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) There’s a copyright notice in the book, but I could not find any record of renewal in the Stanford database, under either author or the AMNH.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 09:43, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

IA Publication date issue for 'serials'

File:Addisonia - colored illustrations and popular descriptions of plants (IA addisoniacolored17newy).pdf - 1932, but I don't see a notice, so it may need to be checked internally. I note other categories for related years post 1925, which might need to be checked in respect of renewals. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:37, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Do you think that renewals could be automatically checked in some way? It seems overly complex right now for, say, an enthusiastic newbie to help by running through a backlog of outstanding checks. --Fæ (talk) 10:52, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Pre 1978 renewals aren't I think in a format that would permit that yet. NYPL I think was working on converting the CCE into XML but it was a long term project. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:56, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

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Commons Photographers User Group meeting on Saturday

Dear Commons Photographers User Group member,

I'd like to invite you to our next virtual meeting on Saturday, December 12. We'll have two presentations: Habib Mhenni aka Dyolf77 will answer the question Do "we" need DSLRs anymore? and Martin Falbisoner will walk us through the making of his featured picture File:Caribbean_Sea_-_Long_Exposure.jpg.

If you can make it, please add your name to the list of attendees to this page:

I hope to see you in three days. Also, I wish you, your family, and your friends all the best for 2021. Your contributions to Commons make a big difference.

Warmly, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 14:12, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

File:Our day in the light of prophecy and providence (IA ourdayinlightofp00spic).pdf

It is PD-US, but this seems to be a canadian edition, author was William A. Spicer (1865-1952), which would have expired in Canada around 2002 which post-dates URAA. I'd like a second view before filing what I think might be an unnecessary DR. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:08, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

The URAA gave 95 years from publication, so in this case added only about 15 years (assuming 1921 is correct); the US copyright would have expired around 2017.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 18:20, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
The URAA is also pretty hypothetical, so it's not always enforced in a literal way. We probably should not make efforts to search out cases to apply it... --Fæ (talk) 18:51, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

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@Fæ: Collapsing, Do you have a script or query that could look for, non-english language, publication outside the US, and what looks like a more recent year (such as in this instance an author lifetime). I would of course vigorously oppose an automated deletion bot, but would not object to a 'bot' that flagged up potential issues, into an appropriate category. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:57, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
I don't think it's feasble to auto-check for "recent" author deaths as the format used to give author lifetimes is highly variable.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:57, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Partly that's why I've been running city of publication as part of housekeeping. Parsing year of publication is unreliable, parsing country of publication is also unreliable. No good answers here and any automation would suffer from GIGO, a lot. --Fæ (talk) 19:08, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

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Category:Internet_Archive_document_anatomyofcellenv00crawrich

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File:Annals of the South African Museum = Annale van die Suid-Afrikaanse Museum (IA annalsofsouthafr94198sout).pdf

[[:File:{{{1}}}]] ([{{fullurl::File:{{{1}}}|action=edit}} edit]|[[File talk:{{{1}}}|talk]]|[{{fullurl::File:{{{1}}}|action=history}} history]|[{{fullurl:Special:Whatlinkshere/:File:{{{1}}}|limit=999}} links]|[{{fullurl::File:{{{1}}}|action=watch}} watch]|logs)
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I'm very afraid that he will continue to spread rumors. Could you help me?

I think he ignored your warning because his problematic behavior did not stop. What's worse is that I was threatened by him. He spread rumors on websites other than Wikipedia Commons, and in this way forced me to do what he said. I have a few unfriendly interactions with Taiwanese users but mostly I just feels that I did nothing wrong for what I do on Wikimedia Commons. No matter how I explain to him, he just couldn't understand. He couldn't very well do that if I didn't listen to him, which means he may never to delete the rumored posts on the Internet. So I'm very afraid that he will continue to spread rumors. Could you help me?--Kai3952 (talk) 15:09, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

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File:Announcement of the Medical School (IA announcementofme5556harv).pdf

Not expired, but I can't find a notice. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:30, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

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PAS photogs

Thanks for your reply on the bot page; I'm not clear what you mean by "a list with text to match and the photos by cat." - do you want me to list all the requests in one go? I'm working my way through the whole set, and it could be some time before I'm sure I've found them all. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:48, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Batch them up to whatever fits in a day for you. The runs take a few of hours, so it makes sense to let the first run work overnight each time. --Fæ (talk) 20:11, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
I've added multiprocessing, so adding categories is now several times faster. --Fæ (talk) 12:15, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

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File:The_biology_of_the_amphibia_(IA_biologyofamphibi00nobl).pdf

Bot may have misdintified this. It's clearly not PD-US-Gov..

Do you have a a quarry query to find all post 1925 dated items with a PD-US-Gov tag that were uploaded under the IA books project?


I can do a PET scan for PD-US-Gov and your uploads date, but can't necessarily do it for the publication date field.

ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:35, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

No on quarry. But this can be done with the normal search, something like this search and then refining the year periods you are interested in. Because of IA metadata, it's never going to be complete. --Fæ (talk) 11:47, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
Granted but it's a start. Can you exclude a category in search? ( I.E most of the Fedlink stuff doesn't need to be re-examined.) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 12:07, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
Yes put a minus infront of incategory, like adding " -incategory:FEDLINK_-_United_States_Federal_Collection". --Fæ (talk) 12:13, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks: -My efforts so far was petscan:18001756 but it's still generating a LOT of false positives . :( ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 12:44, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

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Category:Medical Heritage Library

Hello, do you think it is okay to create subcategories in this category and move some files there? For example, these images (in which I have just fixed an encoding error in the title) could probably have a separate category. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 16:54, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Addition: Also, Category:Books from the Biodiversity Heritage Library, with this set as an example (once again, my fix). 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 17:47, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
The main 'collection' categories I see as bucket categories. It's useful to have one large source category to intersect with others. My preference is to keep the bucket category but you can make as many sub-types of category as you wish. Keep in mind that a specific book may have different scans of the same book or different editions in different collections; so a book specific category is not logically a sub-cat of the bucket cat, but something new in its own right. --Fæ (talk) 17:56, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, this was more or less my question. So the book category should be separate from the source category, okay. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 18:00, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
@1234qwer1234qwer4: Grouping 'sets' of volume of multi-vlume works would be something else to consider, see also what {{Morevols}} is on. It would be nice to identify if there are 'missing' volumes of works, that need to be found and uploaded from IA (or other archive sites). ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 18:30, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
Is that something like Category:Mémoires couronnés et autres mémoires publiés par l'Académie royale des sciences, des lettres et des beaux-arts de Belgique (that was the first where I noticed the encoding error)? By the way, Category:Biodiversity Heritage Library Natural History Museum Library, London collection has many subcategories, which may not be in line with Fæ's suggestion above. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 18:44, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

IA Flikr...

As you can tell a number of recent DR's have been as a result of the harmonization of the IA books uploads finding categories of Images which might not be compatible with Commons licensing.

It seems sadly that in places the IA metadata is not as accurate or complete as might be expected of other archives and libraries.

If it was another uploader, I might at this point have asked what the process for starting a Contributor Copyright Investigation was, but I know and you know that you are a highly competent long-term uploader, and that the issue here is systemic due to causes beyond your control (namely that you were working from the metadata IA and Flikr provided in good faith.)

So, the question is to phrase a request for something like a widescale CCI like analysis of the IA-Flikr sourced images without the negative aspects a CCI might place on those involved? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:23, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

There is no obvious process. The people most knowledgable about this context is probably going to be us, so our ideas for identifying and acting on probable copyright issues might not be improved upon.
I suggest parking this until we hit the 1,000,000 upload mark. We can think of a village pump notice to celebrate that but at the same time highlight these ongoing issues with IA reliability and how we (or other bot/report writers) can automate the detection of issues. In particular, when documents are over 120 years old, it's unlikely that folks will get especially excited about copyvios, there might however be a debate about the meaningfulness or otherwise of applying {{PD-old-assumed}} or marking for review. --Fæ (talk) 13:26, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
Well , can we plan to hit 1,000,000 on January 15 ? (It's the Wikipedia 20 year birthday!) 23:34, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

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Category:Examples_of_Gothic_architecture_-_selected_from_various_ancient_edifices_in_England_(1850)

Volume 1 is - https://archive.org/details/examplesofgothi01pugi - If you can add indvidual volumes to the queue? (Simmilar details to the existing volume). Thanks :) FVolume 3 is - https://archive.org/details/examplesofgothi01pugi ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:22, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

I don't think looking for {{Morevols}} situations like this is something that can be automated, however :( ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:24, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

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IA collection: nle-historicaltextbooks

Commons cat: Historical textbooks or works in the US National Library of Education

Licence : PD-US expired for pre 1925 works. ( A number were already uploaded as they were also under the FEDLINK heading.)

Date limit: up to 1924 ( but can be extended by one year (to 1925) in January 2021, and so on...)

Filtering it for US Publishers will have to be done manually, as there isn't an obvious location field in the metadata of the existing uploads.

Your thoughts? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 00:09, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

This was only one book that had not already been uploaded: worldrelationsma00bows. I have however updated the location/publisher test. --Fæ (talk) 11:22, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

@Fæ: You could also try scanning the upload scans and generate a list of identifiers from the |department = lines. As I see it the collection names are unique , and parsing a list of them from between ";" markings isn't beyond the ability of the sort of queries and text processing already being undertaken. It might generate a fairly extensive list though. And naturally you would have to apply the publisher test you were using on more recent forks. I think there were something like 4 million texts in IA at one point, we can't host all of them, but let's keep going steadily and carefully. Apologies for the large number of DR's, and for seeming to be systematic about checking things like the harmonization uploads. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:14, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Example : File:Metals and metal-working in old Japan (IA metalsmetalworki00gowl).pdf |department = smithsonian being presumably the Simthsonian Library, which isn't yet a fork. Some of the Simthsonian's own publications might be {{PD-USGov-SI}}, but certainly trying to find the pre 1925/6 US published works would be good. I am wondering just how far this ongoing project will go (And it started with 600 volumes, which i thought massive at the time.) 20:20, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

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Universal Library...

In the first few uploads I am finding some items that are not {{Pd-old-100}} , but are {{Pd-old-70}} based on the authors lifetimes.

Perhaps consider if the licences used on these might need tweaking?

BTW I found one item with a bad date, by comparing it with the scan. I think we need more eye on checking these, Would you like to ask for this at the Village Pump or other appropriate locations? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:39, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

This is why the 'public domain' uploads are restricted to <1851.
In theory, one might try matching sets of author names to creator templates or wikidata entries, but it would be highly inconsistent because the format imported is inconsistent. Plus, I don't feel I'm the right person, considering that my IP remains blocked on Wikidata, so I can't personally correct a record or even ask a question.
Yes we might overcompensate by swapping templates, but that feels like a non-solution.
Suggest holding off on another VP notice. I would rather make a January announcement, with a list of activities and understandable backlogs that volunteers can help with. There's no special rush to improve, or even to delete, these scanned 100+ year old documents. --Fæ (talk) 10:33, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Yep. And presumably you'll be updating the bot to reflect the changed dates for US-expired .... :) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:44, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
In respect of January,
  • {{Morevols}} exists because of needing to identify multi-volume works that need to be grouped. I've been using it already to help flag these. (Ideally it should also once the harmonization is more advanced, help identify multi-volume sets, where there is a 'missing' volume to be found, ideally this would also be from IA (based on the foobar01regexp identifiers typically being sequential for different volumes of a multi-volume work when they were upload at a similar time period to IA.). However sometimes, missing volumes have been patched from other source like Hathi Trust. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:55, 16 December 2020 (UTC)


I have adapted the script slightly, so that the license value may have extra templates added after the license template. Given the new IA Query method, this might be a good way of identifying a suitable large non-US publication collection which can en-mass (i.e. not intelligently) have these extra templates added. This can be as many as needed, like LicenseReview and the lifetime templates. --Fæ (talk) 13:34, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

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See the request at Village Pump/Technical. Thanks ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 23:34, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

IA books collections

I added a couple entries to User talk:Fæ/IA books; [1],[2]. They come from Sim Microfilm, which has some 2000 categories in it, though far fewer we can use. Is it helpful for me to continue going through that supercollection and listing individual periodical collections for upload?--Prosfilaes (talk) 23:59, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

It's complicated.
There's now COM:IA books#query which means that if you can use IA advanced search to create a specific working query on IA for the uploads you believe are out of copyright, then the IA books process can upload the PDFs. So, rather than identifying individual journals, a wider IA query with hundreds or thousands of matches would be more useful.
There's no way that we can work out to automate the limited upload of journal volume runs. IA metadata tends to have only the initial start date of the journal, and even worse, many journals have been scanned with multiple years in a single volume, some single volumes resulting in decades of the publication in one PDF. Given this, if you do experiment with IA advanced queries, take care to understand what results from a date restriction is giving you. Sadly even specifying 1899 as the end date, may return journal runs into the 1940s.
I'm going ahead with the small example of AArch. The query gives some of the matches you advise against, so please put any likely copyright problems up for deletion. If you get used to the IA query system, you may be able to work out filters beyond the 'date' metadata. When you examine the 'details' page of an IA item, it uses the same metadata names you can use in the query. Results in Category:Academy Architecture and Architectural Review.
As a caveat, note that due to the WMF large PDF bug, somewhat randomly we may find PDFs that are un-uploadable. As repeated upload attempts take significant time to fail, this means that an upload run of any significant size may take weeks rather than days. As the runs run on either my extremely old and fragile laptop, or a surprisingly reliable but still limited headless Raspberry Pi, it may take time to me to get back to suggestions.
(Update) AArch done, it may be of interest that the most upload attempts were for 1917-12.10.6 at 15, though fortunately, 100% appear to have been successful. --Fæ (talk) 07:19, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

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I cropped for Wikisource

Check that i cropped only photograpy for s:Page:Chess fundamentals (IA chessfundamental00capa).pdf/8, not corpped with text, because text is transcripted in the page. Thanks Shooke (Talk me in spanish, english or italian) 16:56, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

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Category:Public domain files with no author lifetime information

Added some advice to the category, based on discussions elsewhere. I am wondering if this should also be linked in the templates? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 12:15, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Short footnotes are always helpful. Keep in mind the uncertainty, some authors vanish from the record and no amount of research will provide a verified date of death, plus it's often impossible to work out whether a death was a relative with the same name. In my own family the generation above me had about half of all cousins with identical names . --Fæ (talk) 12:34, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. I am well aware of the limits , and that some verification are next to impossible with all the archives closed. (Partly why I am "disapointed" at some copyright holders attitudes at the moment..) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 13:59, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Journal publication dates...

I've checked back in my e-mails...

In old e-mail response from way back, IA says that on some journals what they've been doing is following a 'libray' convention of using the VOLUME field for the relevant publication year, the publication date being the date of the first issue of journal/serial publication.

From a Commons perspective this means that for journals , "manual review" would still be needed, because there is no way to automatically determine if a volume field is a a volume number or a publication year. In terms of Automated tools, there is no easy method to to detect for this.

So the current approach is the best, even if it means things have to be manually reviewed, or tagged.

In terms of journals I've examined, I've either updated the publication date field on Commons or used the convention "actual_year_of_publication [start_of_series_year] based on information in the scans. Perhaps this is an issue to mention when a 'curation' announcement is made in January? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:44, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

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Uploading copyrighted works

It looks like you uploaded File:Type lore - popular fonts of today, their origin and use; the history of the art of typography succinctly related for practical men (IA typelorepopularf00fraz).pdf a few weeks before it was out of copyright in the United States. Did you upload other works that aren't yet public domain? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:40, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

The statement appears incorrect. The work is public domain as copyright was not renewed. Feel free to put it up for deletion if you have doubts. --Fæ (talk) 09:54, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

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Harmonization...

I'd been going back through the Faebot logs for images harmonized before the ctageory was set up.

I've got a PET scan here https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=18122064 which I will also use once I've checked through the logs.

If you can suggest improvements on this, or come up with some specfic things to look for, it would be appreciated, but as the harmonization was a long term effort, it's not needing an immediate response.

(Aside: In setting up the query I also was able to recat some otherwise "orphaned" scans you had uploaded years ago with the relevant 'archive source' category. :) )

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File:The Canadian field-naturalist (IA canadianfieldnat1969otta).pdf

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